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Post by Fleischmann on Apr 29, 2022 10:48:18 GMT
The astronomical community had in recent years entered into a strong disagreement as to the nature of the universe. Æther, air or, void? Was the Galaxy the whole universal realm or was it but part of a larger whole with possibly many others like it? These questions and more rage now from the Broken Back Mountains to distant Caudia.
Sadalen:
Beliefs: There are multiple, 53%; Remainder mixed.
Evidence: 004/500
'I invite the gentlemen reading this august publication to turn their instruments to the spiral nebulæ and observe them keenly and then those stars which are above or below the great plain of the Galaxy. It is our firmly held belief, that with due development in the glass making industry and better designs, that we might come to be able to see the individual components of those nebulæ as being stars in their own right and that if we were to view the stars above and below the plain, we might find that they too are simply more distant nebulæ obscured by such great expanses.
I posit this, as it was not too long ago that we came to understand that our own sun is but one of the many stars which decorate the heavens and thus it must logically follow, that those other stars are similarly enwebbed in planetary orbits and possess worlds not too dissimilar to our own. I feel it is only logical to extrapolate, that our own Galaxy be much like our sun in the greater universe, one of a greater legion.'
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Post by Arnold Colston-Westbrook on Apr 29, 2022 11:16:01 GMT
Narunar:
Beliefs:
The most commonly held belief is that the Milky Way is the only galaxy in existence, and therefore encompasses entire universe. The portion of the Milky Way which we live in is simply a dense area of matter, and there are parts of the galaxy only loosely connected to the 'main body' by less dense filaments, making the universe look more like a chain of 'islands' (dense portions) connected by a shallow ocean (less dense regions). This would mean that 'spiral nebulae' are simply more dense sections of a connected universe which we can see because of the high density of stars or other objects in these regions.
The second most common belief is that there are many other galaxies independent of the Milky Way. These galaxies are the same as or similar to the Milky Way but are so incredibly distant that they have little to no effect on each other.
Both opinions see the universe as a finite entity which is not expanding.
Evidence: 53/500
"Well then gentlemen, it would seem that the Sadalers have challenged the world to see who can truly discover what 'spiral nebulae' are, and we certainly aren't going to let them do it first! This looks like it is going to become a multinational race to the finish line, and whichever nation or astronomer wins will receive immense prestige, so put your hearts in to it. Do whatever you can to get to the solution first, within reason. We are getting a budget increase but I don't want anyone going overboard and spending it all in one go, or compromising their health to do it! Now, get cracking men! This could take a while!"
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Post by xander10 on Apr 29, 2022 16:22:04 GMT
Sheen:
Beliefs: There are more than Galaxy, but not all the nebulae discovered are galaxies, with others being just areas of gas with young stars. These Galaxies may orbit one another like they are planets, just as the Earth orbits the Sun amd the Sun orbits the Milky Way.
Evidence: 053/500
"After much thought, the Sadaler must be right on galaxies, the Universe is infinite, and there must be a relatively even distribution of matter throughout it, afterall due to matter dispersion, if there was only one galaxy, it would have to expand to fill the universe with an approximately uniform distribution of matter, which we have not observed to be taking place. Thus, there must be many galaxies to prevent this from taking place and keeping the Universe as we observe it."
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Post by Dunwik on May 2, 2022 22:13:37 GMT
Dunwik
Beliefs: There is more than one Galaxy, and many of these "spiral nebulae" are indeed other Galaxies, merely far away. However the question arises in Dunwik over how galaxies are stable over long periods of time.
Belief: 85% accepted among scientists.
"It seems implausible that there is some unique structure in the universe, and that we coincidentally happen to reside in such a unique structure. By gravity it is known that objects of mass are attracted to one another - the sun binds the planets around it through gravitation. We also know that objects grow more diffuse the further they are from the sun.
So, we have a mechanism for the existence of a galaxy, of many objects bound in orbit around a single, massive object. But what object could be so massive as to make stars mere planets in comparison to it?
A final question - if stars are similar to our Sun, it follows thus that they could have planets in orbit about them. If 'spiral nebulae' are similar to our galaxy, it further follows that they would consist of stars, which must have planets about them. We, life, arose on a planet about a star. This is indisputable. But this next postulation is something that has only been reserved for fiction. If we could arise on a planet about a star, and there are countless stars, with countless planets about them, then, I must ask, then, could it not be so implausible to assume that on some planet, about some star in some other galaxy, there exists a sentient race of alien creatures? We have been sending wireless transmissions for some time, ten years. Thus, a sphere of our transmission ten light-years across must have been created! Could we, theoretically, see other races in the stars by their own transmissions?
Telescopy must be advanced, and we must start to see in more than just the visual. There could be - there MUST be, other life, somewhere."
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Post by Arnold Colston-Westbrook on May 13, 2022 13:56:16 GMT
Narunar 1906 (figured I'd year list these now so we know when we are)
Evidence: 99/500
Over the past year astronomers across the Confederation have been watching the night sky, observing the 'spiral nebulae', making observations and measurements. On the more theoretical side of things, great debates have been held within the halls of many astronomical institute discussing the still unknown nature of the 'spiral nebulae', with the two dominant positions, those being that the nebulae are in fact other galaxies and that they are simply more distant parts of the Milky Way cementing themselves as the two main positions. Several new, powerful telescopes began construction at great expense in order to achieve greater resolution of the distant objects for more detailed study.
Only time will tell who wins this 'Great Debate' but in Narunar great progress is being made.
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Post by Fleischmann on May 17, 2022 2:41:20 GMT
Sadalen:
1906
Evidence: 007/500
During the intervening time, a great deal of debate erupted over the nature of the cosmos as a whole. Due to this, a new cosmology has begun to gain rather strong traction within the community of Sadalen.
First, the universe is in an of itself eternal with no beginning nor end as no evidence can be found to indicate such exists and is static and not expanding. Secondly, all objects must ultimately orbit a single barycentre in order for the universe to not collapse into a single point due to uneven gravitation pull from all stellar objects. This was deduced as the only plausible explanation for how the galaxies are not pulled into each other and into a single galaxy, as gravitation pull is infinite in its reach and there is no super-massive object that can be seen for all other objects to orbit. This indicates that the universe exists within a perfect clockwork state of orbits and complexity.
Also, due to the discrepancy in its apparent adherence to a set universal speed constant with light's wavelength simple shortening should it be fired from a moving object rather than the light gaining speed, it has been determined that the wavelength of light can be used to measure the relative speed of an object is moving in space to the universal coordinate, as in order for light to have an absolute measure of speed there must be some form of absolute location with a universal coordinate. This has brought up the intriguing idea of attempting to achieve absolute rest within the universe.
On the opposite side, with the acceptance of the speed of light and the realisation that the universe must have a centre, scientists have put forth ideas for how to surpass the speed of light through using staged rockets, as each stage would be able to accelerate exponentially from the last due to each object being smaller in mass than the last.
Finally, it has been suggested that the whole universe in its finite glory is contained within a large ceramic of some sort, now being referred to as a crystal sphere, and that it is suspended in phlogiston and that other universes might also exist within their own crystal spheres and that should we be able to escape our own, that we might be able to travel to these other universes. Debate continues on the nature of the Phlogiston beyond our realm and the likely shape of the cosmos.
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Post by xander10 on May 17, 2022 17:57:55 GMT
Sheen: 1906
Beliefs: There are more than Galaxy, but not all the nebulae discovered are galaxies, with others being just areas of gas with young stars. These Galaxies may orbit one another like they are planets, just as the Earth orbits the Sun amd the Sun orbits the Milky Way. The Universe is not eternal and instead formed in an explosion.
Evidence: 057/500
According to Genesis 1:3, God said "let there be light" and then there was. This must be a sign of how the Universe came to be. A great explosion occured where all matter was created, so all matter is in fact being dispersed by the force of this ancient explosion, this also explains why everything isn't falling back into the centre too, as they are being pushed away from the centre of the universe, while the Galaxies keep from collapsing by rotating around their centres of mass.
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Post by Arnold Colston-Westbrook on Jun 1, 2022 11:58:44 GMT
Narunar
Year: 1907
Evidence: 138/500
Another year in the investigation of the spiral nebulae has passed with great progress. However, fewer discoveries have been made, this is because some astronomers are beginning to realise that the most accepted belief, that spiral nebulae are part of the Milky Way galaxy, may in fact be wrong. As more and more discoveries are made, larger, more powerful telescopes are constructed, and observations published, fewer and fewer of the assumptions and hypotheses that are being made based on accepted theories are being confirmed; most being found to be utterly wrong. Discussions are starting to be made in earnest as to if the astrological models that have guided the field for hundreds of years are flawed, or simply wrong.
While still a distinct minority, those questioning established 'truths' are no longer being laughed out of the room as fools, but being openly acknowledged and challenged on the merits of their arguments. Even the great Walter Hall, one of the most renowned astronomers in the confederation, has declared on record that the current understanding around spiral nebulae is incorrect.
Even still, few have been drawn fully into the theoretical aspects of the debate, with many doggedly observing the sky in the increasingly dim hope that the theories they have held dear for their entire careers are correct, and that there is proof out there among the stars to show that. Only time will tell.
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Post by Fleischmann on Jun 1, 2022 13:31:27 GMT
Sadalen:
1907
Evidence: 021/500
Due to the increasingly divisive nature of ideas, a group of twenty astronomers and two sponsors got together to begin work on the worlds highest observatory. Deep within the Broken Back Mountains and at an elevation of seventeen-thousand feet, the site for the installation was chosen. Far from any major settlements and in an area which was both somewhat accessible and unlikely to be hit by avalanches nor rockslides, it was considered an ideal location in the mountains. An aqueduct would need to be built to provide both fresh drinking water and power through a series of planned turbines and reservoirs, but that would be relatively trivial compared to the cost of transporting building materials to the location. To make it more accessible, one incredibly long emergency series of stairs with rest cabins were to be carved into the mountain and rock with the odd section of flat ground while funicular railway would be built to provide standard access and transportation. In total, the project would be a massively expensive undertaking, likely costing tens of thousands of Þaler to complete, but it would be worth it. To make the place safer, the buildings were planned to have fully isolated bases and would have areas prepared ahead of time for possible expansions, so as to allow the installation to be brought up-to-date with new emerging technologies.
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Post by xander10 on Jun 1, 2022 15:50:10 GMT
Sheen: 1907
Beliefs: There are more than Galaxy, but not all the nebulae discovered are galaxies, with others being just areas of gas with young stars. These Galaxies may orbit one another like they are planets, just as the Earth orbits the Sun amd the Sun orbits the Milky Way. The Universe is not eternal and instead formed in an explosion.
Evidence: 110/500
In the southern islands, an observatory has been built to investigate nebulae to see if they are within the accepted size of the milky way. Results have been inconclusive so far, but a lack of signs of blue shifting, while many stars being redshifted point towards an expanding universe being more and more likely, though some still argue that this points to dispersion in an infinite universe.
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Post by Arnold Colston-Westbrook on Jul 20, 2022 7:34:39 GMT
Narunar
Year: 1908
Evidence: 160/500
The year of 1908 has been one of theory and debate within Narundan astrological community. even the most ardent supporters of Spiral Nebulae residing within the Milky Way can see that the winds have changed, that the extragalactic position of Spiral Nebulae is rapidly becoming the scientifically accepted theory. However, some still cling to the old ways, ardently proclaiming that the wisdom of the forefathers cannot simply be dismissed, still searching for the evidence which will prove them correct.
With the change in theory comes a wave of fresh faces in the upper echelons of the Narundan astrological societies and institutions which has caused cooperation between rival institutes to break down somewhat, hampering efforts overall. As such, less progress seems to have been made this year than last.
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